Ep. 56: Games with a Twist! | What are you playing?

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I. 
Welcome to the cable club. 

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We're a retro video gaming 
podcast where three guys play 

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non retro games too and we're 
linking up to talk about the 

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games you love and rank them. 
This is episode number 56. 

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We're your hosts. 
I'm Steve. 

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I'm Dan. 
And I'm Don. 

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And today we're going to talk 
about what we've been playing 

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this week, so get ready to 
upload data from us to you. 

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But first, pass it to Dawn for 
Set in the mood. 

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All right guys, ready? 
This is for the dads out there, 

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Your wife says on Thursday. 
Hey, tomorrow night I'm thinking

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about taking the kid over our 
friend over our friend's house 

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to play with their kid. 
Is that OK with you? 

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And you think to yourself, Oh my
God, is that OK with me? 

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I know exactly what I'm going to
do with all that time. 

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And you say, Oh yeah, I guess. 
You try to look as sad as you 

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can, but as soon as you're off 
work and she leaves with with 

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the kids, you hop right on your 
ROG Ally or your gaming PC or 

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whatever it is. 
You know, you grab and you sit 

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right up on the couch like you 
haven't sat since the day they 

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were born and you play, you know
exactly what you're going for. 

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And that's what we're going to 
talk about today. 

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The game that we know exactly 
what we're playing. 

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And I think we've got a line up 
of games. 

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So I think we'll just take this.
The three of us just kind of go 

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one after the other. 
Dan and I actually both brought 

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ROM hacks to this, which I think
is super interesting. 

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The game that I actually want to
talk about with with with you 

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guys is a game mod produced by 
AI think he's a Pokémon YouTube 

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named alpha rad. 
So he made a Pokémon emerald 

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hack or he had a team make it or
whatever called Super Mario mod.

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And basically it's a Pokémon 
game. 

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And I don't know, I've, I've 
played a lot of Pokémon ROM 

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hacks and I'm, I'm not 
discrediting the, the, the 

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community like it's way like I 
have no idea how they how they 

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do it, but I don't know if you 
guys are familiar with this at 

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all. 
But like they're all kind of 

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like, oh, what if it was Pokémon
red with different Pokémon and 

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gym leaders use good teams or, 
you know, kind of a lot of tired

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ideas there. 
There are some really 

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interesting ones like Pokémon 
Emerald Rogue, which turns the 

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experience into a rogue like, 
but then there's this one. 

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They like designed everything 
from the ground up. 

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Guys, have you looked at looked 
at any screenshots? 

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So, so I looked a little bit, 
are the moves like they're, 

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they're still like Pokémon 
moves, right? 

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Or like did they like mod the 
moves themselves too? 

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There are some modded moves. 
Oh, there are. 

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OK, because I don't think I saw 
any. 

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Yeah, I, I, I don't think I saw 
any before I started playing it.

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But like, basically from the 
minute you turn the game on, it 

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feels like Super Mario RPG. 
Like they really, so they, they,

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they worked really hard to write
the game in such a way that that

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it feels like somewhere between 
Super Mario RPG and, and like 

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Superstar Saga style style 
writing. 

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And they redid all the sprites 
and like, Bowser's there and 

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like, this is so many Mario 
characters in it. 

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I think like I'm just a closeted
Mario IP fan and this is kind of

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really speaks to me, but I also 
love Pokémon. 

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But what I what what I love 
about this game and playing it 

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now is it gives me back that 
feeling of playing like a 

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Pokémon game when I was a kid 
because it's not a lot of 

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information on it. 
So like you come up against the 

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new enemy and you don't know 
what type it is and what it's 

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what it's going to use. 
It just kind of gives you that 

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or like how strong it is. 
Yeah, I mean, that's also kind 

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of, it's like almost like a 
brand new Pokémon game with like

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all new typings and stuff too, 
which you have to like it kind 

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of like when you were a kid 
where you had to like figure all

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this stuff out again because you
don't know what's weak to what. 

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So getting to like relive that 
is probably pretty cool too. 

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Yeah, it looked pretty neat. 
I looked at a video about it 

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after you'd sent something in 
the Discord and it does seem 

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really interesting. 
And like you know what you can 

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tell that they have the passion 
because they put so much into 

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it. 
Like the world map looks like a 

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Pokémon map, but it also looks 
like Super Mario RPG. 

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And you know, the Sprite work is
really good. 

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You know, you have Mario and 
Luigi and all the all the, the 

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characters from the Mario world 
and they all look like their IP 

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and I think they're all built 
from the ground up from this 

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team and it's pretty impressive.
The music too, though, like 

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there's just Mario music in in 
the game blended up that kind of

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sounds like Pokémon music. 
Like it was composed for this 

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ROM hack. 
This is like so above and beyond

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a normal ROM hack. 
It's crazy. 

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And so it it, it starts when you
start a new game, it immediately

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with presents you with a with a 
host of options. 

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So here's here's how I've been 
playing. 

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The first option is level 
scaling. 

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So any, any trainer or I forget 
what they call them, I'm going 

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to, I'm going to call them 
trainers. 

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But like any trainer, you fight 
their first, they call them 

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captures, not not Pokémon. 
They they they call them 

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captures because the whole thing
is predicated on what was 

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happening in Mario Odyssey where
he can throw his hat and take 

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over an an an enemy. 
So that's the in game 

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explanation for how he's using 
the minions to fight for him. 

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Any anyone you fight their their
level scale. 

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The first one that comes out to 
be 3 levels lower than your Max 

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level 1 or your your highest 
level 1. 

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And then the Mormons, they have 
it increases by 1. 

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So no matter how much you've, 
you've like ground your, your 

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troops up or like how, how 
powerful you are, the, the 

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enemies on routes will still be 
a challenge. 

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And you can turn EVs for those 
trainers on and off. 

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So their teams can be actually 
like just harder with EVs. 

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You know, attack, attack Mons 
will have attack EVs and speed 

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or whatever, right? 
Or, or, or you can shut them 

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off. 
There's just a native Nuz lock 

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that does all the things you 
would have to keep track of 

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separately doing a doing a Nuz 
lock. 

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And for our listeners who aren't
familiar, do you guys know what 

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playing a Nuz Lock is? 
Oh yeah, basically through it, 

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yeah. 
So basically we're. 

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Not the only one talking. 
Don't leave me out here. 

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Yeah, obviously you guys know 
more than me, but you can, you 

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can chime in. 
But basically what it is, it's 

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like, I, I know there's like 
different levels to Nuz locks, 

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but like basically you have to 
catch like the first Pokémon in 

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it and in the area that you're 
in. 

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And then when that Pokémon 
faints, you can no longer use it

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anymore. 
So you have to like put it in 

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the in the box or drop them or 
what. 

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And I think that's just like the
general consensus of an oven Nuz

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lock is where you cannot use a, 
a Pokémon that has been fainted 

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like it. 
They're just gone forever. 

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Yeah, and it depends on which 
set of rules you're doing. 

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They have all kinds of special 
rules, like you can only use 

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Pokémon Center the first time 
you enter the town, or you can't

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use items. 
You can't, you know, you can't 

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over level a gym leader. 
Like, you know, it depends. 

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But the main premise of the nose
lock is, as Dan had said, first 

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Pokémon on a rap to catch no 
duplicates. 

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And if it faints, it's gone 
forever. 

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See, so everything you guys just
said, all that depends is all 

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built into this initial startup 
menu and it's done so easily. 

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So like it's like, Oh yeah, do 
you want to play Nuzlok? 

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And it's either no, yes, or 
hardcore. 

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And hardcore would be you can't 
use items during during battle 

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and it's set and and it tells 
you that on screen. 

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So even if you don't know what 
you're looking at, you will know

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and then it'll say like 
duplicates clause. 

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Do you want to be able to catch 
the same the same capture twice?

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Or do you want it to not count 
if you enter a new route, right.

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So you can turn that on and off 
and and like you can have it 

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auto release or just keep him in
a graveyard in the box. 

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You can see like what you've 
what you've lost, right. 

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And it's just like the whole 
game was built with this in 

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mind. 
Because I don't know, I'd say 

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like, I don't think any route 
has any less than like 4 

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different captures on it. 
And most of the time they're 

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they're new and you don't know 
what they are like. 

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So when you start the game, your
your 3 starters are piranha 

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plant the the grass one, the BA 
bomb is the fire one and the a 

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blooper is the water one. 
Interesting. 

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And they're just pulled like 
directly from from so. 

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Can these minions evolve? 
Yes, yeah. 

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So like the Piranha plant line 
ends up turning into like a PD 

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Piranha kind of a thing. 
If you're not familiar with PD 

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Piranha, he's like the the big 
piranha plant that walks around 

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with the little body you see. 
I think it's the first time he 

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appears. 
I think it's Mario Odyssey he 

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might be in. 
Might be sunshine. 

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Yeah, might be sunshine. 
Anyway, he's he's been around 

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for a while. 
PDPD Piranha is a household 

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name. 
And then the the blooper will 

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turn into a king blooper 
eventually. 

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That's cool. 
I like that and then with the 

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mustache and everything. 
The the the Babam will turn into

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the King Babam from Mario 64. 
That's the one I was thinking 

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of. 
Yeah, and his, his, his middle, 

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his middle evolution are like 
the guys that that throw you, 

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you know the big purple guys, 
they grab you and throw you. 

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From Mario 64, yeah. 
And just like the, the, the 

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typings are really interesting 
too, like he's a fire electric. 

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He ends up being, which is like,
I don't think ever been done and

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like I forget I, I, I think, I 
think the PD piranhas like grass

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and I don't know, like fighting 
a rock or something like that. 

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I don't know. 
It's neat. 

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So like you can get goombas and 
koopas, but the, the cast of 

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enemies ranges, you know, 
everything from like the Koopas 

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and goombas from Mario 1 all the
way up to like the toast arenas 

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from Mario Odyssey. 
And there's like a whole host of

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N64 enemies like. 
Rotom Heat. 

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Oh, fair enough, Fair enough. 
Rotom, Rotom Heat, so you know, 

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new gym leaders and, and, and 
you can put level cap on too. 

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And like there's, there's in 
game quality of life stuff like 

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you just have a key item that's 
just feed your man a, a rare 

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candy. 
But there's also a separate and 

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NPC at the Pokémon Center that 
lets you level your guys up to 

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the current level cap and it'll 
and and it'll tell you what that

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is. 
Yeah. 

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So like you want to level cap 
it, you can. 

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With all like the options to 
make like the game harder, I I 

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almost feel like you can make it
like borderline impossible to be

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like if you like cranked 
everything up to like like you 

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say, like you get like the 
enemies can have or the trainers

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can have like EVs and stuff. 
And then you can put on a Nuz 

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lock And like, I feel, I feel 
like it gets to a point where 

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it's like you can't even like 
win if you if you're like really

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like trying all the options. 
Well, I think there are some Nuz

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lockers out there who are really
good at it. 

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Yeah, you know. 
I mean, it's good for them, but 

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I just like, I just like I'm 
hearing like all these things 

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that you can do to modify the 
difficulty and it's like, damn, 

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dude, like. 
But one thing I did turn on was 

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if you black out, it deletes 
your save. 

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Yeah, that's. 
Probably hardcore, yeah. 

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Yeah, like like so not only if 
you if you lose one of these 

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captures, is it dead? 
Dead for good. 

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If you lose a battle, that's it.
It's like it's, it's back. 

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It's back to the start. 
And I've restarted 3 times right

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now. 
I am I'm on world six of eight. 

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So you know how in the Pokémon 
games they have routes and all 

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the routes have numbers. 
So like the, the routes are all 

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worlds and numbers. 
So like you start out in the in 

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in the Mushroom Kingdom or world
one and the first route IS11 and

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the next route is cool 1-2. 
I kind of wish Pokémon did that 

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because the route numbers like 
don't mean anything. 

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Yeah. 
Like in Pokémon you don't 

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remember all the route numbers 
and it doesn't really matter. 

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But that's I like that level 
naming scheme. 

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So what I'm curious about, 
because it's like, obviously you

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have to like fight the gyms and 
whatnot. 

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Like how does that like tie in 
like story wise, Like I, I, I, 

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I'm sure you're not just why 
you're collecting, you're not 

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collecting badges, right? 
Like you're, you're actually 

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there's a story behind this, 
right? 

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So you're collecting power stars
from the various gym leaders, 

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but the power stars were 
previously collected in Mario 

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RPG. 
So after Mario Odyssey, because 

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they figured out the cap 
capturing people exists in that,

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in that like technology. 
So everyone in this game is 

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running around wearing one of 
them. 

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You know how like they're the 
little ghosts that that that 

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have the little eyes from Super 
Mario Odyssey. 

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Yeah. 
Cappy. 

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Yeah, they in any and Bowser has
his white top hat from the 

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wedding outfit too, as as one of
the Cappies because Bowser's in 

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it too. 
So Peach enlist the help of 

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Doctor E Gad, who is from the 
Luigi's Mansion series, who 

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makes the the vacuum that sucks 
up ghosts. 

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And sunshine he makes flood. 
Yeah. 

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Does he? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
So she enlists his help to put 

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on a contest where everybody is 
going to battle the dot, 

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dogfight these minions. 
And then it kind of gets deeper 

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because Luigi starts out and, 
you know, he's kind of your 

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pseudo rival character. 
He like and I I I just love that

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the game does this because it 
does so many of the things that 

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the Pokémon games I think 
departed from. 

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You know how like when you were 
first playing Pokémon Red and 

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Red and Blue like Gary would 
just show up and surprise you? 

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Your. 
Yeah, is that, is that Luigi? 

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Is that Luigi? 
Like, like you forgot to go to 

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the Pokémon Center and Gary just
without a warning comes up to 

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you and you're like, Oh no, like
every time. 

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The two times that was like the 
worst is Pokémon Tower, because 

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if you didn't save and you 
didn't go to the Pokémon Center 

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and you're all right after Rock 
Tunnel, he could send your ass 

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back to Cerulean City. 
So it it it brings that back, 

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but Bowser is also a rival. 
So Bowser is is in there. 

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He's not one of the gym leaders.
Peach, you know, basically sent 

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an invitation out to everyone 
who who is a gym leader and she 

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said he wasn't going to read it 
anyway, you know, because the 

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writing is on is on point. 
And he just he ends up battling 

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you because his minions listen 
to him. 

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So he makes like a goomba fight 
you and and a koopa fight you 

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and then instead of him having 
another minion he just jumps in 

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to fight your minion. 
So it's like you're in a Pokémon

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battle and you, you know, you 
whoop the guy's Pokémon. 

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He just runs in, fists flying. 
And Kamik is with him and Kamik 

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is just like telling him half 
truths the whole time to just 

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limp him through this process of
playing this game because he 

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won't listen. 
That's. 

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Funny Bowser. 
And like, he's like, what? 

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I lost, I lost to my own 
minions. 

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And then like, Luigi chimes and 
it's because you don't treat 

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your captures with love. 
And then he stops and he's like,

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dude, nobody asked you. 
And then and then Peach whispers

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It's because he doesn't know how
to play. 

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But she gave Bowser Junior a 
star to keep track of, which is 

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one of the badges, but not not 
Bowser. 

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Which is what what brings him to
the Mushroom Kingdom in the 1st 

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place. 
Because he has beef with the 

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fact that Junior was made into a
gym leader and he wasn't. 

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Luigi also, by what I saw, he 
nicknames all of his captures. 

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Yeah, he does. 
Just like in Paper Mario, he has

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his like little stories about 
his adventure. 

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That's funny. 
So he eventually joins Bowser 

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because there's like this. 
So here's here's another thing. 

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There's a, there's A tag 
mechanic. 

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So there's so the first couple 
worlds I think are pretty 

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standard Mario fare, right? 
So you get like the the Mushroom

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Kingdom, then you go to the 
Cloud Kingdom, then you go to 

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like two different city 
kingdoms. 

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You can pick, you can pick 
which, which one to do first. 

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Technically, world 3 is like a 
whole city that's run by Wario 

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who's making games and in order 
to get through this right, like 

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you have to find 3 passwords to 
get into his gym and to do them 

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you have to meet characters from
the warrior wear series and you 

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have to play these little 
warrior wear like mini games 

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that occur like right, right 
with the game like there's just 

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so much crammed into this. 
It's awesome. 

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It's. 
Pretty cool. 

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I I'm going to have to like, 
really give this a look. 

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Holy crap. 
And then like, look, and, and 

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then Waluigi is the gym leader 
in the next World and he's got 

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this like entire crypto scam 
going on of like of, of purple 

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coins. 
And you borrow a bunch of coins 

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from a loan shark, which starts 
a quest. 

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There's, there's like a whole 
active quest log. 

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You can go back and do stuff 
where you owe money to the loan 

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shark and they'll just ambush 
you once in a while if you 

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borrowed coins from them 
unwittingly. 

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And that's still happening. 
Like I'm 4 worlds beyond that. 

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And that's still like every once
in a while, the loan sharks come

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and try to beat me up for coins 
and. 

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That's funny. 
You can sense it's like an 

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actual Pokémon game you can 
revisit like previous worlds, 

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right? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It's not like it's gone forever.
Once you get once you pass it. 

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Yeah, the the HMS and traversal 
things have been turned into 

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items like like a lot of the 
modern games instead of you 

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having to put like strength on 
one of your best Pokémon, right?

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Like you there. 
There's the Power Glove, which 

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is the like the Nintendo Power 
Glove let's you move, move 

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rocks. 
And it's just like so in, in 

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the, the, the Donkey Kong 
Kingdom, which is the fifth one,

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you meet up with Captain Toad 
and Captain Toad travels with 

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you and he, he fights alongside 
you in double battles. 

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Cause in Donkey Kong's Kingdom, 
everybody fights with two, two 

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captures at the same time. 
They call him wild, wild 

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battles. 
So beyond that, the whole 

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Kingdom is like navigating 
through the jungle. 

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You can split up with Captain 
Toad, like you can turn around, 

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talk to him and say let's go 
separately. 

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And Mario has these panels that 
he can jump on and Toad has the 

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power glove that he can move 
boulders with. 

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And you have to separate along 
two different paths. 

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And when you hit the R button, 
you literally switch from Mario 

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to Captain Toad. 
And Captain Toad has his has his

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own party and he can catch 
things within within the Jungle 

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Kingdom and raise them. 
And you're literally going back 

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and forth playing two trainers 
at the same time, solving 

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puzzles like you would in a 
Mario and and Luigi game. 

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Wow, so but what happens like 
when you pass that world? 

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Did you just lose Toad or? 
At least temporarily, he keeps 

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alluding to the fact that he 
will come back, but in in the 

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game, he gives you all the stuff
that all all the all the items 

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that that that he has, including
the the power glove and also all

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the captures that you captured 
for him and. 

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Because. 
The the Jungle Kingdom is long. 

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By the time you've gotten 
through it, he definitely has. 

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You probably have caught 6 
captures and like actually he 

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has a his main 1 is a hammer 
bro. 

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And you guys remember cast form 
from the yeah? 

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Oh, from yeah, Pokémon right 
Cast form Yeah, that's a little 

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droplet thing. 
Or yeah, he's a little. 

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Crappy Mon that changes with the
changes types with the weather. 

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So hammer bro is that so? 
Hammer bro doesn't doesn't 

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evolve. 
If you hit sunny day, he turns 

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into one of the fire trucking 
hammer Bros and then if you hit 

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snow he turns into an ice one. 
And if you hit rain he turns 

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into a boomerang 1. 
And depending on which one he is

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he has, he has an attack called 
hammer throw which will turn 

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into fire throw, ice throw or 
boomerang throw. 

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And all the attacks do a 
completely different thing. 

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Like hammer throw is like a fury
attack style attack. 

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Boomerang is a two hit might 
flinch you move like it's so 

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neat. 
I I just can't believe all the 

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stuff that they crammed in this 
game. 

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It's so good. 
Yeah, yeah, and I'm I'm still 

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playing through it. 
I'm sinking hours into it. 

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It's it's quick too, like the 
there's there's 8 worlds and I'd

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say each world probably takes 
you about an hour. 

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So the a world to be akin to 
going from gym, gym, gym to gym.

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And it's just like crap that 
happens like bullet bills 

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shooting at you, which are also 
captures and this puzzles and I 

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don't know, it's it's this weird
awesome. 

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So well done crossbreed between 
Pokémon and Mario. 

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RPGI really recommend it to 
everyone who is who is 

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listening. 
Yeah, you're making me want to 

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play it. 
Yeah, it just spoke to me so 

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deeply. 
Is it on mobile or is it like or

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is it like just you have to 
emulate it on like AGBA 

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emulator? 
Yeah, we'll leave the link to it

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in the in the show notes here. 
But yeah, it's, it's, it's just 

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AGBA file and mobile. 
Mobile now has has emulators, so

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you definitely could just run it
on your phone if you wanted to. 

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I mean low key this sounds 
better than an actual Pokémon 

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game. 
It is better than an actual 

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Pokémon game. 
Oh and the oh I didn't even 

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mention one of the best parts. 
So the the pokedex, the tattle 

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decks, which is from Paper 
Mario, if you catch something 

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within the tattle decks is that 
captures entire move set like 

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learn learn set like you can go 
over to the stats and you can 

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scroll through the moves it 
learns and when and it will tell

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you how it evolves. 
There's 150 total captures and 

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it it tells you everything about
them after you catch them in the

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in the in the tattle deck. 
So it has this whole like 

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internal database that you don't
need to go search online for. 

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Yeah, definitely a good quality 
of life thing there. 

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Yeah, Pokémon's kind of behind 
the time zone, what it should be

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doing. 
Yeah, well, especially if you 

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have, you know, little kids 
playing it. 

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You know, it's like they should 
just be all in the game at this 

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point in time. 
Yeah, excellent. 

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They Nintendo needs to hire 
these these people and pay them,

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pay them, pay them to do. 
Yeah, they won't. 

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Never mind. 
Never mind Mario and Rabbids. 

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OK, nobody wants that. 
Get out of here with that. 

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Super Mario Mon is where it's 
at. 

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Oh the Wario fight. 
He's trying to make another game

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so people stop playing the 
capture game. 

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That's funny. 
And he downloads it on his on 

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his computer and he gets it from
a shady source and the the virus

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in the computer attacks you and 
it's literally red from Pokémon 

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blue with like with like a 
toros, A Snorlax and like other 

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and and and like a Lapras and a 
Pikachu or something like that. 

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And you fight like the literal 
like blue sprites from that. 

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Wow, it must be a generation. 
Must be a dumbed down version 

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right? 
Like lower levels cause wasn't 

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warrior like Level 3 or 
something? 

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Yeah, I mean he but but with 
with with level scaling, it's 

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like right there with you. 
So it is, it can be kind of a 

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tough fight and you have to 
fight him right before fighting 

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Wario, but if you fight him to 
the rival battle music. 

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I was going about to ask that, 
but that is sweet. 

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So cool, so cool. 
Anyway, I'll stop and I will, I 

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guess. 
Is there there's a lot going on 

433
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,840
in that game. 
Mine is not near is going to be 

434
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,600
as long as that maybe just a 
fraction of that. 

435
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:49,000
But like what I have been 
playing is a mod and it's Mega 

436
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,200
Man X8 but it's it's called Mega
Man X8D Meg and it's in the SNES

437
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,520
style graphics. 
So is it is it a modded like 

438
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,880
Mega Man X1? 
Like how? 

439
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,480
Like what is the modding engine 
or is it a complete ground built

440
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,840
up game? 
I think it's I think it's ground

441
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,560
built up because it feels 
smoother than X1, but it just it

442
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,560
looks like it like all the arts 
like very similar to X1. 

443
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,680
But yeah, I've just been having 
an awesome time. 

444
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,360
So when they first released it, 
I think I have a name here. 

445
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,520
It was created by Allison Depas,
you know, I'll link it in the 

446
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,880
description. 
But it only X was playable at 

447
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,640
first. 
So you could play through the 

448
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,080
whole game just with X, you 
know, has his armors. 

449
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,040
What? 
Not all that. 

450
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,720
But then another martyr came 
along and actually put Zero and 

451
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,360
Axel into the game. 
Wow, it's a mod on a mod. 

452
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,120
Yeah, so like they people came 
together and just made this game

453
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:49,520
complete. 
It's just it's great. 

454
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,160
So I mean, obviously there's 
there's differences. 

455
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,960
You there's no switching. 
You pick the character on the, 

456
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,320
you know, boss select screen of 
which character you want to play

457
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,320
as. 
And then that you'll play the 

458
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,560
whole entire level with just 
that one character, which is 

459
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,320
fine to me. 
Like I feel like swapping is 

460
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,640
kind of broken because you get 
like 22 characters in one you 

461
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,520
get AA. 
Life Wire makes the game fairly 

462
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,040
easy I think. 
Yeah, and if you have certain 

463
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,040
amount in the original X8, if 
you had a certain amount of red 

464
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:24,120
damage but not fully gone damage
when you switch, they'll heal it

465
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,920
over time. 
Yeah, so that mechanic is in 

466
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,400
this game, but it's not tied to 
your character like your base 

467
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,040
character. 
So like X with no armor doesn't 

468
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,360
get that he gets that through 
his armor like one of the armor 

469
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:42,800
pieces will allow him to heal 
like the red damage, which in an

470
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,800
X8 wasn't like that. 
It just they, it came baked in 

471
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,680
like Steve was saying. 
Yeah, it. 

472
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Would slowly, but the red would 
slowly take away. 

473
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,800
Yeah, on the active character, 
yeah, you have to swap to gain 

474
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,480
it. 
Yeah, so how this game deals 

475
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,640
with it is you actually have to 
deal damage to for it to go back

476
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,240
up. 
So if you have any like red 

477
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,120
bars, as long as you're shooting
and doing damage, you can get 

478
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:12,640
that HP back or the the bars 
back X has his own armors like 

479
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,600
he did in the X8 where you had 
like Hermes and Icarus. 

480
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,080
And you can swap between 
whatever pieces you want mix and

481
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,880
match ultimate armors in the 
game. 

482
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,200
It's in like 1 of the last 
levels so that the the 

483
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,160
unlockables in this game is you 
don't have to beat the game to 

484
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,240
unlock like the ultimate armor 
black service. 

485
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,560
They're all in the game. 
They're just hidden, which I 

486
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,880
think is was great. 
OK, so you have to like they're 

487
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,520
not tied to like how like the 
the the black zero and white 

488
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,160
axle. 
I don't remember how you unlock 

489
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,360
them in. 
So, so how you so how you unlock

490
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:52,200
them in X8 was, is pretty there 
was a lot of things you had to 

491
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,280
do. 
Like you had the 100%, the 

492
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,080
character progression, like you 
had to buy all like the upgrades

493
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,440
with like the metal system. 
So, so that they were at 100%. 

494
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,160
When they're at 100%, you had to
kill Luminase final form with a 

495
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,280
double attack with the character
that you had selected like did 

496
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,360
that you were fighting with. 
And that's how you unlocked like

497
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:16,840
black zero and the white axle. 
Could also unlock the navigators

498
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,120
right? 
Can you do that in this game 

499
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,520
too? 
No, remember. 

500
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,560
You could play as like Alia 
Lair. 

501
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,080
You could. 
I actually don't even remember 

502
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,560
how you do that. 
I forget how you do that. 

503
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,520
Steve and I did all of it Once 
Upon a time, so. 

504
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,080
Full yeah. 
So they added fights in this 

505
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,120
game. 
So like on the Optic Sunflowers 

506
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,920
level, there's like a secret 
area that you can go to like if 

507
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,840
you S rank all of like the 
areas. 

508
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,760
And once you S rank the last 
area, this area that unlocks 

509
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,800
that's like kind of hidden by 
the like. 

510
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,200
If you explore like this whole 
you, you notice that like 

511
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,520
there's a gate that's been 
unlocked and you can walk 

512
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,320
through as long as you S franked
everything. 

513
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,760
There's portals in here where 
you can fight like different 

514
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,400
bosses. 
One of them is Serenade from 

515
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400
Mega Man Battle Network 3. 
I've seen that fight, it's so 

516
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,320
cool. 
Holy shit is that that boss 

517
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,120
ridiculous like. 
You beat it. 

518
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,440
I haven't not beat it yet. 
So. 

519
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,240
So when you beat the game, you 
have to play on normal first, 

520
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,160
but then you unlock hard mode. 
So like I didn't find it on 

521
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,240
normal mode like Sam, so I'm 
playing it on I'm trying to beat

522
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,520
him on hard and yeah, he's just 
slapping me around. 

523
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,440
But there's also another boss. 
There's two other bosses there. 

524
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,240
There's Cut Man, which was 
already in the game like Mega 

525
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,480
Man X8 and then there's Red from
Mega Man X7. 

526
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,480
If you guys remember, he's like 
the he's like the Maverick, the 

527
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,440
head honcho Maverick, that group
that Axel was with he. 

528
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,000
Had him in the. 
In the. 

529
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,080
He had the scythe. 
Yeah, and there's a bunch of 

530
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Spires and like mist underneath 
and you have to transfer the 

531
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,600
Spires to fight him. 
Yeah, and he teleports around. 

532
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,080
I don't remember this Mega Man 
X7 game. 

533
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,120
I think there's only 7X games. 
Mega Man. 

534
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,000
Mega Man X 23456 and 8. 
I mean, I don't think you're not

535
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,040
wrong. 
Yeah. 

536
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,600
But any who, if you beat him as 
Axel, you'll that's how you get 

537
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,640
his white armor. 
But like his that fight is is 

538
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,400
cool because all right, let me 
dial back a bit because the the 

539
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,800
how you unlock his capsule so 
you can actually walk into it. 

540
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,720
It doesn't tell you in the game,
which being a mod, I really 

541
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,680
don't think you should do this 
because obviously there's no 

542
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,560
wiki usually on on mods or at 
least very little information. 

543
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,640
But you can actually toggle your
sub tanks and your health off. 

544
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,840
So like if you when you get 
these upgrades, you can actually

545
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480
turn them off. 
So if you want to get everything

546
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,240
but you still want to play bare 
bones like with no upgrades, you

547
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,360
still can. 
But like how to make his capsule

548
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:59,080
enterable, you have to turn off 
sub tanks in heart pieces or 

549
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,760
whatever so you can actually 
unlock it and go into it. 

550
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,960
So you have to fight him with 
like no upgrades whatsoever. 

551
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,280
Red only does one damage to you 
no matter what he does, but he's

552
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,280
like crazy. 
He's like zipping around like 

553
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,520
it's so hard to dodge like his 
moves that like that one damage 

554
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,880
adds up because it's just like 
he's ridiculous. 

555
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,360
He's not as hard as Serenade 
because serenade chunks, but 

556
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,960
like it's very hard to beat Red 
without taking any hits. 

557
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,640
So like the the 20 bars that you
start off with, like you'll be, 

558
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,760
you'll be surprised how fast it 
actually goes down when you do 

559
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,480
fight them. 
So they gave that character like

560
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,800
a real fight because the X-71 
was kind of like. 

561
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,280
Yeah. 
It's kind of dookie, like 

562
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,000
everything else about that game,
but. 

563
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Yeah, I actually like, I don't 
even know which one I actually 

564
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,960
prefer. 
Like I the D make is good. 

565
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,400
Like so this 2 levels and X8 the
original X8 where they're like, 

566
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,720
you know, vehicle levels were 
like you're on like a like a 

567
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,840
whatever you call it a 
snowmobile or whatever. 

568
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,480
And then like a hovercraft, I, I
personally don't care for those 

569
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,280
levels like some people might, 
but I, I play X for Mega Man XI 

570
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,080
want to be dashing around, wall 
jumping, shooting, all that. 

571
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,000
That's what I want to be doing. 
And that's what they did in this

572
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,240
D make like they're still in 
there, like you can ride around 

573
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,560
on these crafts, but they're 
they're optional, like optional,

574
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,320
like you can actually like run 
if you wanted to. 

575
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,320
And they have like other spots 
in the levels where you have to 

576
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,920
actually get off and like do a 
little platforming and all that 

577
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,760
stuff. 
So they it basically turns them 

578
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,840
into normal levels which is 
great. 

579
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,840
Yeah, because I think the 
jellyfish boss, I forget what 

580
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,920
his name was, he got kind of 
like a hosed out of a level in 

581
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,520
the in the original X8. 
Yeah, well, so did the the Yeti 

582
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,480
guy did too. 
I thought he had a little bit of

583
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,280
a level and part of it with 
snowmobile. 

584
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,400
I think he had a tiny bit at the
end. 

585
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,200
Like a very, very tiny bit 
because I know you could, you 

586
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,200
could grab like a capsule and 
stuff, but that like, yeah, it's

587
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,520
not, it's not a lot. 
I'm, I'm so apprehensive about 

588
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,120
this because I'm a little bit 
miffed that it exists at all. 

589
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,840
I, I mean, I think it's cool. 
I love, I love the fan, the fan 

590
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,560
projects. 
It does look like something that

591
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,440
I want to play, but the bass 
around it hates on Mega Man X8 

592
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,520
so much and I I really feel like
it's because Mega Man X6 was not

593
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,440
great and Mega Man X7 was so 
inexcusably bad that I think 

594
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,000
just by then people were 
poisoned. 

595
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
But I love X8. 
I think it's. 

596
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Really good. 
I think it's good too and. 

597
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,320
It's just like, like whenever I 
log on to something to look at 

598
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,800
this this, this D make, there's 
just people like crapping all 

599
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,680
over X8, so it makes me want to 
be like, I'm playing anyway, 

600
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,120
yeah. 
Screw you guys. 

601
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,360
What they should have done is 
they should have been X7 like 

602
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,800
there should have been an X 7D 
make like. 

603
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,360
I honestly do feel like on its 
own Mega Man X8 was a was a 

604
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,880
good. 
Game. 

605
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,400
I just want to go through a list
of the things that I liked about

606
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,639
X8 and ask you if it's in there.
So like voice acting? 

607
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,239
Because I actually like the 
voices of X and Zero in the X8, 

608
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,800
Yeah. 
No, the voice acting is 

609
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,360
phenomenal. 
In the original X8 there 

610
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,280
unfortunately is no voice 
acting. 

611
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,920
Dialogue at all? 
There is dialogue, yes. 

612
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Each boss has their own. 
It's basically a RIP from the 

613
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,120
original. 
Like I've noticed that a lot of 

614
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,600
the same things that the 
original had was in the the D 

615
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,920
make, so it's probably a one for
one. 

616
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,400
Does every boss have super 
attacks? 

617
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,679
Yes they do, and depending on 
the difficulty they'll trigger 

618
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:46,040
it later or earlier depending on
if it's normal or hard. 

619
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,320
Does 0 get all of his other 
weapons like the glave and the, 

620
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,800
you know, the knuckles and. 
Oh yeah, he gets them all and 

621
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,840
and they feel better in this 
game I feel like, like they just

622
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,040
feel more fluent to use. 
The glave was just better than 

623
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,200
the Z Saber, yeah. 
Yeah, I remember on the moon 

624
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,400
like just using it to go through
the the floor to hit the Sigma 

625
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,520
replicas. 
Sharking him, yeah. 

626
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Yeah. 
Is Luminae still the main bad 

627
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,120
guy? 
Yeah, Yep, he's the final boss 

628
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,120
still. 
Oh wow, and the Sigma fight is 

629
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,440
still in it. 
Yep, he's the first of the 

630
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,640
three. 
So you got like Sigma, then 

631
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,720
Luminae, and then like Luminae's
final form. 

632
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,880
So yeah, no, it's really good. 
Like if you're a fan of Mega Man

633
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,560
X8, it's definitely worth like 
looking into it. 

634
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,200
I had a lot of fun. 
And there's no metal system, so 

635
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,920
there's no farming like currency
or anything like there's there's

636
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,800
no like progression through like
the the chip system that they 

637
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,960
had. 
It's been way too long for me to

638
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,360
remember exactly how that worked
and what you got from it. 

639
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,320
Yeah. 
So like I'll run you by a couple

640
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,880
examples. 
So like the the original X8 had 

641
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,280
like a currency system, I think 
they called it metals. 

642
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,840
Yeah. 
And yeah, yeah, I do remember 

643
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,040
that because you got rewarded 
more because there'd be like 

644
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,760
rooms of like, I don't know, I 
don't want to call them mini 

645
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,880
games, but like there were rooms
that if you performed better, 

646
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,120
you would get more medals at the
end. 

647
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:19,680
Right, and basically what they 
were used for was you could like

648
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,240
augment any of the three 
characters X0 or X. 

649
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:27,240
Like you could give them like a 
shock buffer where like they 

650
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:31,520
took less damage or like you can
raise their HP like I, yeah, 

651
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,880
there was no hearts in the 
original. 

652
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,880
Like you, you actually upgraded 
their health through the through

653
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,600
the the currency system. 
And then like you could give 

654
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,520
them like chips where like you 
could step on spikes once 

655
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,680
without dying, but then like the
chip would go away after that. 

656
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,520
There's just like many stuff 
like that. 

657
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,080
God that's making me want to 
play Mega Man X8 so bad. 

658
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,400
That is not in the in the in the
D make. 

659
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,760
It's basically like the NES 
would have been like you got 

660
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,000
your stages, you got like your 
collectibles in each stage. 

661
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,080
And yeah, like that. 
I, I don't know if I, if I 

662
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,280
prefer the metal system to like 
to the original formula, to be 

663
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,760
honest with you, because like 
the to 100% like a character 

664
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,880
like or all characters for that 
matter, was very grindy And like

665
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,320
you literally would have to like
repeat stages just to farm 

666
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,920
metals. 
Like I remember like Steve and I

667
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,960
would farm like the like the the
dung beetle stage I think it was

668
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,400
where like you had that big ass 
robot that would chase you and 

669
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,720
then like anytime you hit them 
like you would drop like a bunch

670
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,720
of metals and stuff. 
I remember doing that stage of. 

671
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,280
Time you do fast charge with X 
and the laser beam. 

672
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,560
OK, it's all, it's all coming 
back to me now. 

673
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,000
Yeah. 
Oh, and another thing that they 

674
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,200
don't have is the grading 
system. 

675
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,720
That's like an X mainstay since 
since pretty early on. 

676
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,800
Well I thought you said that you
could S rank levels to unlock a 

677
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,000
new. 
Level no, no, that that's optic 

678
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,960
sunflower thing. 
So yeah, optic sunflowers level 

679
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,240
like it's like a bunch of mini 
games in the in the level and 

680
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,360
depending on how good you do so 
like say, like if you S ranked 

681
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,120
like the first like mini game. 
Yeah, it's kind of like Storm 

682
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,120
Owl from X. 
Four yeah, exactly like you 

683
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,520
would get an upgrade like you 
would get a heart tank for S 

684
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,720
ranking the 1st. 
Part I understand now. 

685
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,080
And then so on and so forth. 
If you asked ranked all of them 

686
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,600
in a in a stage that that's how 
you unlocked like the special 

687
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,880
fights. 
I think in the original you had 

688
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,560
to like do some optic sunflowers
level multiple times to get 

689
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,760
everything you needed. 
So I think there was like a 

690
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,480
couple of them where it was like
second place got you like one of

691
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,360
the capsules that might have 
contained 1 of zeros weapons or 

692
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,120
something like that. 
And then first place got got you

693
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,920
a sub tank or vice versa. 
Like I think you literally had 

694
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,240
to do that level a few times in 
order to get everything. 

695
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,240
Yeah, you, you're probably 
right. 

696
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,960
I I don't remember exactly. 
I think my only beef with that 

697
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,920
metal system in X8, because I do
remember farming the crap out of

698
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,160
that boss, was that it was a bit
overtuned. 

699
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Like, I don't know how they 
expected you to earn all those 

700
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,320
medals. 
Yeah, you couldn't like you 

701
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,160
couldn't just like with a like 
A1 level type of thing or you 

702
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,960
just go through the level once 
and be done with it now, like 

703
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,480
you were so under metals, if you
only did one level each like one

704
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,560
time, you literally would have 
to go through that level that 

705
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,000
we're talking about to farm that
big boss thing probably like 20 

706
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,960
times to to Max everybody out. 
I mean, that's probably my only 

707
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,760
like biggest gripe with the 
original. 

708
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,240
But other than that, I feel like
X8 is really good and it's it's 

709
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,520
more of like tomato, tomato or 
apples to oranges when it comes 

710
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,240
to the the original to the D 
make. 

711
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,840
They're both both really good 
and I think they're both worth a

712
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,920
play through. 
Let me ask the very worst It 

713
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,600
gives you another opportunity to
play a next game you haven't 

714
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,360
played. 
That's the way I looked at it. 

715
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,240
Because, you know, they, we 
don't have anything, because 

716
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:57,520
Capcom sucks with anything, Mega
Man. 

717
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,840
So with ROM hacks, you know, 
and, and, and I kind of talked 

718
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,240
about this a little bit in the 
when, when talking about Super 

719
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,560
Mario mod, there's like 
sometimes there's a lot of 

720
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,440
things that are overlooked and 
kind of janky. 

721
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,680
Is that is that this or do you 
feel like this is like super 

722
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,920
polished? 
I feel like some of the upgrades

723
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,240
could be in better locations, 
like some of 0's weapons, it's 

724
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:21,480
like you almost like never would
have figured that out like on 

725
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,840
your own. 
Like some of them are like you 

726
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,600
have to be in a certain spot 
without taking any damage. 

727
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,400
And then you can just like walk 
through this like wall. 

728
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,400
And then his weapon would be 
like sitting like past the wall.

729
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:37,040
But it's like if you had even 
like a little bit of damage 

730
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,160
taken like the wall, you 
wouldn't be able to walk through

731
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,520
the wall. 
But it's just, but like, how the

732
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,800
hell would you know that was a 
secret area to begin with? 

733
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,440
Like stuff like that. 
I feel like they they definitely

734
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,280
could balance better because 
that in my opinion, that's not 

735
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,160
good. 
In in X8 the original remember 

736
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,000
the the the trilobites power you
like raise that earth column, 

737
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:01,160
yes? 
I. 

738
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,040
Feel like I remember some 
instances where you had to do 

739
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,240
that to dig the item up from the
ground, and I don't remember if 

740
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,520
there was anything signaling you
that that was something you 

741
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,120
should do right there. 
Yeah, well, I can tell you that 

742
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,240
that's not a thing in this game 
where like that that that power 

743
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:20,680
up doesn't grab items so. 
I think Steve and I just got 

744
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000
good at it and we were like, oh,
that looks like an area you're 

745
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,600
not supposed to be and there's 
nothing there. 

746
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,560
Let's try the Earth power. 
Yeah. 

747
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,400
Yeah, checks out. 
But other than that, like the 

748
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,720
game is like very fluent, I 
would say, like it's on the 

749
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,760
level of the PS1 era of like 
fluidness. 

750
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,160
Oh, now you're speaking my 
language. 

751
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,320
Yeah, like it the the problem 
with like the the SNESNES ones 

752
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,560
is like it's just not as fluid 
like the wall kicking is can be 

753
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,520
somewhat clingy in the in the 
SNES ones. 

754
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,480
It's not like that. 
Like it's like it feels like PS1

755
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,160
which is good. 
How is the dash? 

756
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,760
Can you hold down the dash and 
do like the dash jump? 

757
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,520
You know what I'm talking about?
OK, you can do that. 

758
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,120
You don't have to dash and then 
and then jump quick like you do 

759
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,160
in the. 
You've got me second guessing 

760
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,200
it. 
I'm pretty sure you can just 

761
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,880
hold it down, but don't hold me 
to that because I'm not sure. 

762
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,120
But yeah, if. 
It's supposed to be like X8 then

763
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,360
I'm sure it's in there if you're
holding your dash button. 

764
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,320
Yeah, I think, I think it is. 
I think it is. 

765
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,840
So tags and double attacks are 
just not in there at all. 

766
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,840
No, those are not in there. 
Metals are not in there. 

767
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,320
Grading's not in there, it's 
just basically like the 

768
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,520
original, like how an SNES take 
on Mega Man XA is pretty much 

769
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,960
what it is. 
I I've seen the graphics I feel 

770
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,600
like it does look like a step up
of of SNES. 

771
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,560
It's what leads leads me to 
believe that it was built from 

772
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,680
the ground up. 
Yeah, no, it is. 

773
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,800
It's it's definitely not a 
replica of the SNES ones. 

774
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,720
It I would know because I, I, I 
just know how the, the SNES ones

775
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:00,400
play and it's not like that. 
Are any of the fights noticeably

776
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,040
different? 
Like other than other than the 

777
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,840
extra ones, obviously, but like,
did you notice anything that's 

778
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,520
stuck out to you about the 
fights like some? 

779
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,480
Of them are yeah, some of them 
are different where it's like 

780
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,160
every boss pretty much does what
they were did in X8. 

781
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:18,920
But like some of them have like 
different special moves, like 

782
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,400
like the like the move that they
do when they're at like half 

783
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,800
health, like the panda one 
bamboo pandemonium. 

784
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,080
He has. 
Remember he had like that mega 

785
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,640
punch that could like almost one
shot you if you got a hit. 

786
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,560
I think it did one shot you if 
you got hit you it's like jump 

787
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,880
at the right time or something. 
I forget how you dodge it. 

788
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,400
So he doesn't have that. 
He has like this weird like claw

789
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,440
attack move that like kind of 
like follows you like he will 

790
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,760
like start clawing, but like one
at a time and you just got to 

791
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,760
dodge that like a certain amount
of times before it ends. 

792
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,080
Gravity Antonian, his special 
movie. 

793
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,280
Remember when he had like the 
blocks that would fall? 

794
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,240
Like, Oh yeah, that one 
definitely killed you instantly,

795
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:01,360
right? 
No, it just did a crap ton of 

796
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,760
damage in this game. 
They don't stop coming like 

797
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,080
once. 
Once they're on the screen, he 

798
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,560
it's there until he's dead. 
I don't remember if it was that 

799
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,040
way in the original. 
I no I don't think so. 

800
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,640
The same the same with optic 
sunflower. 

801
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,040
Like when the lasers come 
crashing down on you, those 

802
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,680
those don't stop coming like 
they, they're, they're there 

803
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,480
until you kill it. 
Oh, OK. 

804
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,560
Because she she in the original 
was actively like, launching the

805
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,240
lasers, Yeah. 
Yeah, no, she's like she's 

806
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,840
teleporting around and stuff 
while they're, you know, this 

807
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,720
this targeter, this like 
crosshair thing is following you

808
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:40,320
and is like shooting like laser 
beams at you. 

809
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,400
So yeah, the the bosses aren't 
one for one, but they're they're

810
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,200
very similar. 
Like what is it burn rooster 

811
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,560
like he does like the fire 
pillars on the side so you can't

812
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,240
wall jump anymore? 
Yeah, Chief Burn Rooster. 

813
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,040
Yeah, he he's Chief Burn 
Rooster. 

814
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,880
Chief Burn Rooster. 
Yeah, yeah. 

815
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,680
So he has that in the D make. 
I'm trying to think if there's 

816
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,760
any other differences that I 
that I saw that like really 

817
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,320
stuck out. 
Kind of neat that there's some 

818
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,560
differences though. 
So it also gives another level 

819
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,520
of wanting to play because 
you'll get to experience it a 

820
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,160
little bit differently, not just
artistically, but you know, 

821
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,040
mechanically. 
So that's pretty nice. 

822
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,960
Yeah, no, it's different enough.
It's definitely not a one for 

823
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,640
one. 
And if you like I said, if you 

824
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,960
don't want to play like the the 
Super, the Super grindy version 

825
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,560
of like X8 with like trying to 
Max out everybody, you don't 

826
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,240
have to do that with this one or
like trying to like get a AAA 

827
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,120
like like you don't have to. 
It's just it's not in the game. 

828
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,240
It's just basically SNES Mega 
Man X8. 

829
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,120
Nice. 
So how do you how do you get a 

830
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,840
hold of it? 
Do you have to play it on an on 

831
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,560
an SNES emulator or is it like 
it's own separate? 

832
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,920
Yeah, it's its own separate 
thing. 

833
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,120
You just download it, it, it 
takes like 2 seconds and you're 

834
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,400
ready to go. 
Has its own like key binds and 

835
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,640
all that stuff. 
Its own options. 

836
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,200
Like there's a ton of options 
that you can go in and mess 

837
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,640
around with. 
Next week the wife is going to 

838
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,520
be in Ohio for work, which means
my nights will be free. 

839
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,840
Maybe I'll have to check out 
some of these mods. 

840
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,880
Modded games. 
I know like the tomorrow mod 

841
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,560
sounds really good, I'm not 
going to lie. 

842
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,600
It is very good. 
I haven't been playing anything 

843
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,840
modded, I've actually been 
playing the game that we're 

844
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,800
going to be covering next week, 
so I'm not going to talk about 

845
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,800
it here. 
Fair enough. 

846
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,960
So Steve then I saw in the 
discord recently that you, my 

847
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,000
friend, I think, are the first 
of us three to buy a switch too.

848
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,400
Yeah, and I haven't played it 
yet either. 

849
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,640
I've unboxed it. 
I've downloaded Mario Kart World

850
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,920
and I plan on playing it this 
weekend. 

851
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,840
Alicia has. 
To it, you know. 

852
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,240
Yeah, Alicia's been playing 
while we've been filming, so you

853
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,360
know, she's got the the head 
start on me. 

854
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,040
He's like, damn it, I want to 
get off this so I can go in 

855
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,680
there and play it. 
So what? 

856
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,520
What was the game that that that
sold you on it? 

857
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,360
What are you? 
What are you aiming to play 

858
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,600
first? 
I figured I was going to buy one

859
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:18,280
anyway regardless, but the I 
want to play Super Mario Kart 

860
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,600
World or whatever it's called, 
but I'm thinking about picking 

861
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:29,880
up the Bravely Default remaster 
but there I don't. 

862
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,960
Donkey Kong Bonanza does not 
look good, so it's not that. 

863
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,800
A lot of people seem to think 
it's very good and, and, and I 

864
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,960
would agree with you initially, 
I did not think it it, it looks 

865
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,040
good, but a lot of trustworthy 
sources that that I look to for 

866
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,880
this kind of thing say it's very
good. 

867
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,680
Well, I'll have to look into it.
I haven't really given it a fair

868
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,920
shot either to look at, but I 
just. 

869
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,760
Know one hour speed runs of it 
and stuff. 

870
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,920
Like, really? 
Because they figured out how to,

871
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,600
how to manipulate everything to 
do like skips and things like, 

872
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,320
you know, there's like, there's 
like that aspect of it. 

873
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,640
But well, I mean, look at the 
way the game is designed. 

874
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,600
You can't tell me that, that, 
that, that any designer like 

875
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,280
human intelligence hasn't 
reached a point to cover every 

876
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,440
contingency that that game could
possibly have. 

877
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,240
It's. 
Crazy. 

878
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,840
So I mean, I know like, you know
it, the Switch is like 7 years 

879
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,360
old or whatever, 8 years old. 
And so I know that they're just 

880
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,280
going to reset their line. 
They're going to make a new 

881
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,120
Mario, a new Zelda, a new Smash,
and, you know, new Donkey Kong, 

882
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,280
all this stuff. 
And I just kind of wanted to be 

883
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,720
in front of it rather than 
behind it. 

884
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,760
Yeah, I know. 
A new Smash game is definitely 

885
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,240
going to have me at the front of
the desk wanting a switch to for

886
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,920
sure. 
I'm a sucker for the Smash 

887
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,880
games, even if they end up being
kind of lukewarm. 

888
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Yeah, I got to get them. 
Yeah. 

889
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Pokémon Legend ZA might tip me 
over, although it is coming out 

890
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,520
with a regular Switch version. 
But it does, you know, I, I, I 

891
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,040
really enjoy Legends, Legends 
RCS. 

892
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,680
So if it's another game in that 
vein, I, I really want to play 

893
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,600
it too. 
I don't really have a lot to say

894
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,000
about switch to yet, so. 
All right, well, we'll be 

895
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,000
looking for updates on that. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

896
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,560
All right, I. 
Think they got they got Game 

897
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,880
Cube games so. 
That that's a big plus. 

898
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,160
I'm kind of sad that, I mean, 
it's understandable, but like 

899
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,720
I'm kind of sad it's not for 
Switch 1. 

900
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,640
Supposedly like they're 
launching some to like the new 

901
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,480
like like Fire Emblem Path of 
Radiance on it too, which is 

902
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,800
going to like destroy the value 
of the of that game as a 

903
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,200
collection piece. 
That's OK Availability is more 

904
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,000
important than collectibility. 
Yeah, it does need to be taken 

905
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,800
down a peg. 
It's like 300 bucks. 

906
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,840
It's just ways you want that's. 
That's crazy. 

907
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,640
Yeah, but I am I am looking 
forward to some some GameCube 

908
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,960
reprints. 
I actually think, you know, for 

909
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,640
the 20 bucks a year or whatever 
it is, the Nintendo Switch 

910
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,040
Online or they're calling it 
something else now, it's like 

911
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,240
Nintendo Switch classics or 
something like that. 

912
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,560
Wait a minute. 
I only pay like $3 right now, or

913
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,080
three or five anyway. 
I think it's 3 to $5. 

914
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,960
Yeah, yeah. 
What is it going up to 20? 

915
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,920
No, it's 2020 a year. 
All a year. 

916
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,520
OK. 
Yeah. 

917
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,560
Or I misheard that. 
It might. 

918
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,360
It might go up a little bit, but
it's a really cheap subscription

919
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,080
for for everything you get, I 
think. 

920
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,840
Oh yeah, absolutely. 20. 
Yeah, it's nothing. 

921
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,200
I was going to say like 20. 
What? 

922
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,400
Like what the heck? 
I mean, you know, I was just 

923
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,440
looking at our, our, our 
subscriptions and not to get all

924
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,960
old guy on here, but we have 
like one extra profile on our 

925
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,200
Netflix and it's costing us $36 
a month. 

926
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,480
And I'm like, oh, I don't think 
so. 

927
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,840
Yeah, Nope. 
Not, not, not lately, sorry. 

928
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,960
But yeah, anyway, so I guess we 
will call it here guys. 

929
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,360
So we'll say get our get our 
plugs in. 

930
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,960
So if this is your first time 
joining us, thank you so much. 

931
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,440
Typically we would be reviewing 
a retro game. 

932
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,640
We do that every couple of 
weeks. 

933
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,720
I have enough time to play it 
and let it marinate. 

934
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,280
But every once in a while on an 
off week episode, we like to 

935
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,040
give an update on what we are up
to. 

936
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,800
And that's what this episode is 
here today. 

937
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,760
Sometimes we share what we're 
playing, sometimes we talk about

938
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,920
gaming news, sometimes we talk 
about a console draft or 

939
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,160
something like that. 
So, you know, take a look at our

940
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,600
backlog and check out some of 
the off week episodes that we've

941
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,160
done. 
But our typical shtick is 

942
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:29,000
looking at a retro game from 20 
years back or more that a guest 

943
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,520
brings on the episode for us to 
enter into our retro game 

944
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,760
league. 
I would like to thank our 

945
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,560
Discord community in particular 
because they they're a lot of 

946
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,480
fun to hang out with from week 
to week and they really make 

947
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,640
doing this podcast worth it. 
So if you're listening to this, 

948
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,400
you have been for a while, think
about joining the Discord. 

949
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:53,680
You get 24 hour access to all 
this, all of this and you get to

950
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,080
join our awesome little corner 
of the Internet where we all 

951
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,320
hang out and play sometimes 
retro games really can play 

952
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,040
anything together. 
Just make some new friends. 

953
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:04,960
And you can find us anywhere, 
including where you're listening

954
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,360
to us now. 
But anywhere you find podcasts 

955
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,840
or prefer to listen to us, even 
on YouTube to go check out our 

956
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,560
videos over there, find out what
we really look like and ruin the

957
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,160
magic. 
But you can go look at all the 

958
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,480
visual elements we put on there.
Dan does a good job editing 

959
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,720
these episodes for us. 
And if you are on a listening 

960
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:24,680
platform and you've been you've 
been following the show for a 

961
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,880
while, think about leaving us a 
fair rating or review. 

962
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,160
Let us know how how we're doing 
One to five stars. 

963
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,720
Give us some comments. 
Yeah. 

964
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:34,760
Ring the damn bell and give us a
thumbs up. 

965
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:40,200
Ring the bell. 
So yeah, our theme music is done

966
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,440
by Cubby. 
Check him out at his band camp. 

967
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,160
He's awesome. 
If you like chip tunes and this 

968
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,480
podcast is edited and produced 
by all three of us, what a bunch

969
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,280
of three talented guys we have 
here. 

970
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,240
So join us next week or we're 
going to talk about a doozy of a

971
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:59,480
game, which is Ocarina of Time, 
brought to us by a streamer. 

972
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,160
RiRi yells. 
Who's going to come onto our 

973
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:08,560
show and vie for why Ocarina of 
Time should win the cable club 

974
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,680
league for 2025? 
And I'm looking forward to that.

975
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,120
Can we just handle the belt now?
She's going to say perfect 

976
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,760
scores. 
Yeah, I think she's it's pretty 

977
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,760
well tilted amongst this crowd. 
I I might drag the average down.

978
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,120
We'll see. 
I prefer. 

979
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,520
To not allowed to. 
Not allowed to until you beat 

980
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,240
it. 
Isn't the fact that I've started

981
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:32,520
it and not beat it saying saying
something? 

982
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:33,800
I mean it's. 
Something about you? 

983
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,400
I beat I beat Oracle of Ages the
first time. 

984
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,280
I am curious to see what his 
beef is though when that episode

985
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,800
does come if he does have any. 
Illegitimate beef, that's what 

986
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,880
it is. 
Yeah, I'll, I'll talk about what

987
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,240
a deranged human being I am on 
that episode. 

988
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,560
We can all hear that. 
So for that, join us next time 

989
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,800
in our deep psychological 
exploration of playing through 

990
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,360
Ocarina of Time. 
But for now, game over, fellas. 

991
00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:01,520
Game over. 
Game over.